Just walk with me…. through the order of Season One episodes, Part One

I have reposted earlier comments here into a blog post of their own so they are easier to find… I originally wrote these comments in the 3rd post for Sudden Death.
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One final thought about Sudden Death and the other foot injury episodes ( gift horse, service above and saved by the bells)… I had a look at Amanda’s movement throughout this episode.. we basically never see Amanda move – she is always standing in one spot or sitting down – If we see her moving, it is always back to camera and most likely a double ( her hair is a bit softer).. In one moment you can even see her cast- but it is also hidden by many random props throughout!

I can’t prove it conclusively, but this leads me to believe this episode was when her foot injury was the worst – I put this episode at episode 5.. I think it was originally the first time, there goes the neighbourhood, the Acm kid, Magic bus, and then after Magic Bus this episode ( this is why Lee is soooo cranky to see Amanda in the locker room – he didn’t think he would see her again) and before Always look a gift horse – when her foot injury is first mentioned..(we actually see her walking on it in Gift horse- she doesn’t walk on it at all in this episode..) Hmm would you guys be interested in discussing the order of these early season 1 episodes? or am I boring you with my theory? I won’t elaborate if no one is interested that’s cool Smile I know not everyone agrees with me.. and that is fine, but I can’t shake the thought that this episode was the first foot injury ep- and it got postponed to delay their first kiss.. I find it interesting to view gift horse, service above and saved by the bells through the lens of this episode!!

And in the comments of that episode:

Cindy Davis | February 7, 2012 at 2:54 am | Reply | Edit

  1. RE: True ep order
    Where would you put “If thoughts could kill”? I think it would come definitely after ACM Kid but before “Sudden Death”. This would explain his dismay (in Sudden Death) of seeing her . She was a reminder of everything he went through. She did see him at his most vulnerable (in a hospital gown :P ) and worst. It should be after ACM kid because I found it odd that Amanda knew so much about Lee’s character and personal habits after only working together twice. I mean, she’s good, but not that good.

    • iwsod | February 7, 2012 at 11:05 am | Reply | EditHi Cindy! I find If thought could kill (ITCK) to be a tricky one to place – because we don’t see Billy’s office – ( there are lots of things that change in Billy’s office that give us clues as to the episodes order..)From The Long Christmas Eve we see Billy has a new Fancy chair.. and the noticeboard makes an appearance… (but in If thoughts could kill.. we have no opportunity to see..) so any episode with those in Billy’s office you know is later..

      I am keeping one eye on this whole idea as I go through the episodes for this blog.. and will continue to keep an eye on it… the trouble is occassionally you get a line of dialogue that means an ep must be before another – but it can’t be.. so you know it is just bad continuity! so how do we distinguish? ! I’d love some help with that! With some episodes.. I think there may be no way to know for sure so opinions can differ.. I am not 100% sure.. but I like to try and work things out.. and the foot injury helps us!

      I knew ACM kid had to come third, as Amanda goes to Lee’s apartment and comments on it and looks around – it is her first visit there.. so it must come before ITKC..

      In ITKC Amanda’s (or should I say KJ’s) foot is fine.. she is wearing heels ( and it is her not a double!).. so it must have been done before her foot injury – as there is no cast, and after the cast is gone, she wears runners for a while..

      I then had Magic Bus, as I thought it fit with Amanda not yet actually doing a proper job with the agency ( Lee just thought they were parking the RV in her driveway and that’s it) .. and the episode ends with Lee commenting he may not see her again.. Amanda tells Lee this is the first time she has seen his legs ( and she sees them in ITCK) so maybe ITCK is the episode after this??

      Lee’s extreme reaction to Amanda being his messenger in Sudden Death always bugged me.. it was so over the top.. I thought maybe because he thought he would never see her again.. but then.. if the episode before was ITCK, where he hurt his knee – the knee injuries mentioned in Sudden death would make sense.. if there is a length of time between the episodes.. And ITCK can’t be after Sudden Death as that’s when the foot injury comes up. Can anyone think of a reason why that order of Magic Bus, ITCK, Sudden Death wouldn’t work?

      Ok.. so I am thinking:
      The first time
      There goes the neighbourhood
      ACM Kid
      Magic bus
      If thoughts could kill
      Sudden death
      Always look a gift horse
      Service above and beyond
      Saved by the bells

      (bold is foot injury eps!)

      What do you think?
      I wonder if they changed the order so Lee wasn’t in pain, injured or shot for 3 episodes in a row?! but they kept two episodes of Amanda in grave danger together.. hmmm… thoughts anyone?
      I’ll keep an eye on this as I keep going.. but I am pretty sure Amanda moves on to runners for the long christmas eve and remembrance of things past.. man.. maybe I should start a separate blog to discuss this?LOL! I haven’t even gotten the pics out :)


  2. Cindy Davis | February 7, 2012 at 11:48 am | Reply | EditAny re-order that lessens the ‘jerkiness’ of Lee (I now have Katy Perry’s “Hot N Cold” running through my head. Great. :-( ) is fine by me. At least this way, his feelings about Amanda develop in a little more consistent and understandable way.

9 responses to “Just walk with me…. through the order of Season One episodes, Part One

  1. So I was rewatching ACM Kid & found a couple of snags between putting it before If Thoughts Could Kill.

    1) There’s a line in Lee’s apartment referencing a book from Amanda’s reading list she was given by Billy. Amanda had made repeated remarks about not having received training and wanting the training on There Goes The Neighborhood, Magic Bus, and Always Look A Gift Horse In The Mouth. All of those episodes imply she hadn’t gotten anything, therefore ACM Kid has to come after all of them since she’s now getting some training resources.

    2) Even more significant (in my mind) is Lee’s attitude towards her in this episode as well as her comfort level with him. On Magic Bus she said she knows nothing about him. On this ep she knows about the kind of women he dates and is comfortable enough to tease him about them. But more importantly, Lee calls her of his own volition to help with Alexei and his demeanor seems warmer than when he made the request on Service Above & Beyond. They also have quite a bit of warm and friendly conversation in Lee’s apartment, especially in the evening scene, which is a drastic departure from the first few eps.

    At minimum, this feels like it should be after If Thoughts Could Kill, where I would say Lee is at his most unfriendly toward Amanda (and therefore should be as early as possible). Plus, based on what we see onscreen and have heard Bruce say, I’ve always used Service Above & Beyond as the measuring point for Lee’s attitude timeline in Season 1 and this definitely feels like a post-Service ep to me. He just seems too warm and relaxed to be before that and especially before his behavior on If Thoughts Could Kill.

    I know there are the two issues of her apartment comments and Dotty dating Dr. Bain, but I think I have a solution for both of those that still works with this timeline:
    1) On If Thoughts Could Kill, she barely looks around the apartment. She goes straight to the table and then has the run-in with the neighbor woman. She didn’t really have the chance to observe the rest of the apartment’s condition. Also ACM marked her first chance to really comment to Lee, since he wasn’t there on If Thoughts Could Kill.
    2) Listening to the exchange about Dr. Bain on ACM Kid, it sounds less like an introduction and more like Dotty’s reminding Amanda about him. To me it comes across as though Amanda is almost surprised that her mother is still seeing him and is having her memory jogged by the reference.


    • My last post got a little long so I’m doing my revised ep order for Discs 1 & 2 as a separate reply.

      Obviously 1 & 2 HAVE to be The First Time & There Goes The Neighborhood.

      Magic Bus
      If Thoughts Could Kill. This timeline fits the way they talk about Dr. Bain and also allows Lee’s most unfriendly attitude towards Amanda to be as early as possible while taking into account the “I’ve never seen your legs before” comment.

      Those four and Service Above & Beyond really are the eps where Lee is the most resistant and less friendly towards Amanda (other than Artful Dodger which is a separate issue so won’t be covered here). And we know from Bruce himself that Lee’s attitude towards Amanda began to change after carrying her out when she nearly died. So automatically, that puts:

      Service Above & Beyond


      Sudden Death: Putting this right after Service helps explain Lee’s odd reaction to Amanda at the beginning of the ep when he sees her in the locker room and yet has accepted her to a point of being willing to call her an “apprentice agent” later in the ep. (I can’t see a pre-Service Lee being willing to admit that status. Even on Magic Bus he’s talking like they might not see each other again, whereas by Service he’s willing to say “See you around.” Plus in the ambulance his line “You might even make a decent agent some day” implies the first time he was willing to think of her as more than temporary). Lee was clearly unnerved by his emotional reaction to Amanda at the end of Service, so the football case represented a chance to get away from her and get his equilibrium back. Only she shows up as the courier, just in time to see him hurt and vulnerable. He hates that at the best of times, but it’s worse with these confusing feelings, so that’s why he reacts so strongly to seeing her.
      Always Look A Gift Horse In The Mouth: Lee is accepting Amanda now as an agent in training, if not his official partner. So we see him giving her instruction. Having Sudden Death between the two injury eps also makes the reason for the cast logical: She hurt herself on Service, but that case didn’t get very physically demanding, allowing her to think she was healed up. But all the running etc. she had to do in Sudden Death aggravated her injury, landing her in a cast. We also learn Billy has finally agreed to training courses now.
      ACM Kid: As said above Amanda has gotten her reading list as mentioned in the previous ep and by now she and Lee are forming a real rapport.
      Saved By The Bells: Lee is now at ease enough to jokingly call Amanda partner, a big step for him.

      What do you think?


      • Oh crap. I forgot the tapes we hear Amanda listen to on Sudden Death. I guess that puts it after her training request on ACM Kid but then we lose an explanation for Lee’s odd reaction to seeing her in the locker room on Sudden Death. Now I’m confused…


  2. I think “Service Above and Beyond” should come before “Always Look a Gift Horse in the Mouth”.
    She mentions the little league injury in both, but in Gift Horse she says she thought it was nothing at first but turned out she needs a cast.
    It makes no sense for her mother to ask her about her injury after she already had a cast.


    • Hi JollyGood – welcome to JWWM.
      I’ll have to keep this in mind when my brain comes back around to season 1! Unless I’m immersed in this stuff I find I can’t make sense of it.
      However, your logic here sounds fair!


  3. SilverCorvette

    Its been a very long while since any comments were made on the order of Season 1 but lately I have been going through my Season 1 DVDs again. I think you are right, iwsod, that The ACM Kid should be before ITCK, and that Sudden Death is out of order. I had the impression watching ITCK that Amanda seemed to know Lee a lot better than having just met him two episodes ago and that they seemed to have taken several steps backwards in Sudden Death, after SAAB and SBTB.
    When Amanda arrived at Lee’s to babysit Alexei in The ACM Kid, she says “This reminds me of a place I lived in when I was in college, Mother saw it and made me move”. I don’t think she would have said that if she had already been there in ITCK.
    That Lee was surprised to see her in Sudden Death and did not want her there seemed odd after all they had been through in SAAB and SBTB.


    • Hiya SilverCorvette! Great to see you stop by! Thanks for sharing your thoughts.. good to hear your experience is that my order for season 1 is feeling like it’s on track so far! 🙂

      Ahh season 1. You know I am looking forward to eventually going back to season 1 and walking through those eps in as much detail as I manage these days.. whoo hoo! 🙂


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