So Lee and Amanda finish their Cyclops lecture from TP.. and we cut back to Billy – don’t forget Billy! Billy is being injected with more of that zybillium.
Hurry Lee and Amanda!!
Love how BJo transcribed this.. I’ve gotta share it:
Billy: Uh! Or some sort of sigh/noise-thingy
[describes it perfectly! 
]
Looks like Billy is in a dentist chair..
We cut back to Lee and Amanda.. more walking and talking.. so has all this happened in the one day? I guess so.. given Amanda is still in the same clothes.. it’s looking very sunny and bright again..
Amanda: Lee?
Lee: Uh huh?
Amanda: If um, Cyclops is involved, do you think maybe we should get some help?
[Love how Amanda poses this question- she is very careful with how she broaches this possibly tricky question]
Lee: Nope, we’re on our own…
…Dr. Smyth made that very clear…
[lol Lee realises what he’s said and quickly corrects himself]
…I’m on my own. You’re on your way home.
[whoa!!!! Just like Wizard? and Over the limit?? you still trying that one Lee?!]
Amanda: Oh no, no, no, no, no,…
…You, you need me. You really-…
Lee: Amanda listen –
Amanda: -You still need me.
Lee: -Just listen to me…
…You know, you’re lucky…
[Lee has it all wrong. He’s the lucky one – Lucky to have Amanda!!]
… You guess at answers, you use your intuition,..
[Amanda’s hair is looking longer and straighter in this scene no? seems they may have come back to reshoot this scene later…did the writers want to insert more about them being a team now? Is this in the script?? and if so.. is it similar? maybe it’s just me- sorry I don’t have time to consult the script much at the moment- feel free to and please share any goodies you find with us!! 🙂 ]
…but it’s going to take more than a sixth sense to take care of Cyclops and get onto that hidden floor.
[This doesn’t make any sense to me. Amanda isn’t saying she’ll go take care of Cyclops by herself! And was it luck Amanda found the hidden floor??!!! Nope!!!
And – Excuuuuuse me!!! Amanda has more to offer than just ‘luck’!!! and she guesses??? She does more than just ‘guess’!!! Amanda is not a monkey!! She’s not an octopus who guesses the winner of the world cup! She uses her intellect!
I see what the writers are trying to do with this – but this whole slant on things bugs me! Okay, yes Amanda does use her intuition but that is different to saying Amanda is just lucky or guesses- this takes away from what Amanda has learned and has to offer. Am I making any sense or is it just me?! ]
Amanda: Okay, look…
…I’ll supply the sixth sense…
…You get on the hidden floor…
We cut back to pensive, silent Lee.
He silently considers Amanda for a moment.
[Is it just me or does he look at her mouth here?]
We cut back to Amanda and she’s looking like she knows she’s got Lee right where she wants him haaaaa!!! [Is that about helping to find Billy?? Lee looking at her like that?? Or them being a team? I’ll go with all the above!]
Amanda adds: ….Sounds like a plan.
Love the look on Amanda’s face as she turns to walk toward the corvette.. she knows she has been a bit sneaky here haaaaa..
I never noticed this before, but this is like fair turn on the ‘you’re a cab’ moment – this time Amanda comes out on top- meanwhile Lee and Amanda are again jostling about the work and doing the whole flirty thing.. Lee smirks at Amanda as she walks to the car.
Amanda walks to the corvette and opens the door.. she looks back at grinning Lee who is still standing in the same spot – trying to work out what just happened?! Or maybe amazed at Amanda.. I like the latter option!
Amanda prompts Lee: C’mon!
[Amanda is clever.. and knows better than to argue with Lee and that stuff about luck and guesses- Instead she turns it back on Lee- you think I have intuition to offer? fine let’s use it! It’s so ironic that here is Lee saying she is lucky and guesses – when at this very moment Amanda is actually very clever- not lucky at all.. and uses her intellect to keep herself on the case. I love the playfulness between these two here but the whole luck/guessing thing pushes my cranky button!!!]
Lee starts heading to the car and laughs to himself.. Yep Lee has met his match! [which pushes my gleeful button! How about you?]
On to baddie HQ again.. the ominous black high-rise of dooooooommmmm!
It’s time for the Cyclops G-6 meeting 😉 Looks like Canaan and Daisy have arrived and brought Zorbel to address the other five Cyclops members.
In post 4, Canaan said he would call a Cyclops meeting and bring the schedule forward to tomorrow –so I’m thinking this is all still the same day- does everyone agree?
Hmm.. Lots of smoking going on.. (Must make room for new members somehow!) – Dr Smyth was a smoker too.. do you think smk could be hinting that Dr Smyth may not be a good guy?? The smoking adds to that ambiguousness..
Canaan: Gentleman… [I don’t think they are!! 
] ..Shall we begin?
One of the members of Cyclops: Mr. Zorbel.
Zorbel: Gentleman.
[no really.. I don’t think Gentleman qualify to be a member of Cyclops!]
LOL we see Zorbel put his briefcase on the hexagonal table.
– are we suppose to be nervous that Zorbel is going to kill them all with his lazer tazer?!
We cut to the lobby of the big bad high rise.. and Lee and Amanda are waiting to catch the elevator.
Wait a minute!!!! did you see that?!!!
That establishing shot just had Zorbel walking out of the foyer – but he’s upstairs addressing Cyclops!!! They’ve reused that shot from when we saw Zorbel leave the first time! whwhahahaa.. Bet they thought I’d have a life and not notice.. well.. I showed them! 😉 ahem!
The elevator arrives and Lee and Amanda wordlessly get in..
The elevator doors close..and so does this post! I’ll be back with more soon! Sooooo the episode is getting interesting again no?! Can’t wait to hear your thoughts! byeee!
"Just walk with me.." 
Okay, Lee and Amanda are always adorable but there is something about this episode that really is extra cute. I just love them. I could watch their interactions over and over.
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A wonderful SMK teachable moment. Yes, Lee needed to be bopped over the head with his ‘lucky’ comment, but Amanda’s handling of it is just brilliant. She doesn’t get mad, or seeth (I would have and she definitely would be in the right to call him on it), she simply does not give any energy to it, does a nice jujutsu move and continues on the mission without wasting time or making unnecessary ripples.
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Yup!!!! I think it comes up again.. so I’m biting my tongue a bit on this whole gripe of mine 😉 but glad to see it’s not just me Cindy 🙂
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LOL, iwsod! Okay all you smart people out there…is there a website that has words for all these sigh/noise thingies out there? What’s it called when the word is spelled the way it sounds? Phonetic? I should just bing it myself, but I’m not feeling like it.
Lee looks positively perfect as he’s telling Amanda that she’s just lucky. I almost forget that I’m gritting my teeth as I’m looking at him deliver this load of codswallop. I think any great detective/spy/whatever uses their intuition. In what episode does Lee talk about his finely tuned skills or intuition or something, insinuating that Amanda doesn’t have them yet? I’m pretty positive this is in an earlier episode. Amanda may be a little lucky, but Lee is lucky every now and then too. Amanda is developing her skills more and more which makes her “lucky guesses” now more intuitive and real, based on experience – like Lee. So it’s not really luck anymore. I think that switch clicks on for Lee as he realizes she’s bested him here.
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Onomatopoeia is the term for when a word sounds like the sound like buzz or sizzle, etc.
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Thanks, Valerie! I knew there was a word for it, but just couldn’t place it!
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It was in Brunettes Are In when Lee talked about his gut instinct and intuition when he was chastising Amanda in the agency hall for not picking up on the fact that he didn’t want her to accept the sock assignment.
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Ah, yes! Thanks, ruthp221! I can picture it now! It seems to me that Amanda has developed her own gut instinct and that Lee is acknowledging it, albeit not in the nicest way.
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Just noticed that Amazon indicates the original air date was 11/11/1985, great way to celebrate the 39th anniversary together.
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Oops, make that 29th!
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And the 11 of the 11th is Remembrance Day. Maybe this is a clue to the title? (The 1956 movie mentioned in an earlier post about a fighter pilot)
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And yes, Lee definitely deliberately looks down at Amanda’s mouth when she says, “I’ll supply the sixth sense, you get on the hidden floor”!
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I believe that by now Lee wants and accepts Amanda as his partner although he is still struggling with the danger that puts her in. I don’t see him trying to push her away as he did earlier in their relationship. Maybe he’s either still looking for reasons/excuses to keep her out of harm’s way or else he’s offering her a graceful out if she feels she’s getting in over her head.
I also think that the danger he fears for her is no longer limited to physical danger. One of the things Lee has come to love about Amanda is her optimistic, gentle and rather innocent world-view and he wants to protect her from losing that through exposure to the ugliness and violence his work entails. Since I believe that Lee also now knows that he loves Amanda and wants her to love him, I wonder if he could also be trying to keep her from seeing the violence he himself is capable of in the line of duty. How would a soldier on the battlefield feel about his loved one actually seeing him doing his job?
There have been prior discussions about Lee not feeling worthy of Amanda. Maybe this is another aspect of that idea.
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Maybe Lee’s feelings for Amanda are now beginning to make him think more deeply about how she sees him.
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This is beautiful.. I love it!!! I guess at this stage we are not sure what Lee can have in mind.. but as the episode progresses we can see Lee knew this was going to get hairy. And that’s all I”ll say on that – when we get there we can look back on this scene and think ohh right that’s maybe why he was doing such and such..
it’s a bit tough on the old memory.. but sometimes it’s good to let things just be for a while.. and then as the episode unfolds (or the relationship) previous decisions etc. can begin to make more sense..
This is where it’s great to have lots of great minds on this walk – together we will be able to put these pieces together without having to jump ahead in the story:) At this point, Amanda can’t know this is what Lee is up to – or heck.. maybe Lee hasn’t yet realised it either??
Interesting to keep in mind as we continue.. but that script section that Kiwismh transcribed (thanks so much for that kiwismh) also points to this issue and so adds weight (IMHO) to this theory!
Yes maybe the whole not worthy thing is starting to kick in – but I find this a bit tricky to consider without thinking of what is ahead – and to be honest I don’t really remember details of what’s ahead.. and I’d rather not.. so maybe at the end of the episode I can look back and see if I see this..
Okay byeee!
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I like this too!
As I watch that little scene with Lee and Amanda it almost sounds like Lee is using old terms, luck, intuition. It is like he is reacting and pulling from their old vocabulary. And yet even here there is more relationship between them so it sounds different, the way he addresses it seems different because they are closer. But I don’t think he really believes it about her so much. I think he knows she has more than luck and intuition on her side. That smile that he gets on his face is such a tell. He loves it that she is up for the challenge, I think he is glad that he hasn’t turned her away from the job.
I like the idea that he is trying to protect her. But gone are the days of protecting Amanda by pushing her away or telling her to go home. Just as she has gotten closer to him personally, she is his partner. I like what you said about protecting her from the grittier side of things too. This next stage for them really is interesting.
I do agree that Lee loves Amanda at this stage, yet I am not sure if he has applied the label “love” to it yet, even though we can.
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The smile Lee gives at the end of this exchange is ever so sweet. I think one of the things Lee has found most intriguing and attractive about Amanda right from the get-go is her ability to keep him off balance. I think this smile is a reflection of that, and shows both an acceptance and an appreciation of this.
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“Looks like Billy is in a dentist chair..”
I don’t know what sort of a dentist you go to, but I don’t think I’d be happy with restraints!!!
Am I the only one who find it interesting that Lee is walking with his hands stuffed into his jacket pockets? I can understand it at the start of the scene (previous post), where Amanda’s trying to talk him out of blaming himself, but not later… it’s very closed body language–unlike Lee around Amanda… or am I going off on a tangent?
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err yeah.. err minus the restraints! whahahhaa
you know it did strike me that in this moment Lee doesn’t reach out and grab both of Amanda’s arms like he often does when he is trying to get her to do something he wants.. so yeah I noticed it too..
Is this Lee trying to be detached from Amanda?? or.. you think they had a disagreement in RL?
I guess we can never know.. but I can say It felt different to me too..
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Or maybe it’s just a chilly day and he’s trying to keep his hands warm. Or maybe he’s got bad circulation.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. (I think this is attributed to Freud)
Or as I like to say, “Not everything means anything.” 😉
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He could keep his hands warm on Amanda.
(Stopping there.)
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Wahahahahaha! 😀
Although, seriously, with the depth of his feelings now for Amanda maybe he is scared his hands will wander onto her too much or inappropriately.
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Actually that is what I was thinking. I think he may need to keep them in his pockets because otherwise his hands may brush against hers as he walks and then…. But it also occurs to me that Lee is not good at leaning on others, and I bet he is worried about Billy, and he knows that there is some dangerous territory ahead. He may be aware that he needs to get Amanda to disengage (even though I think a part of him wants her by his side, hence the use of “we”) So maybe he is distancing himself and trying to go into loner mode here.
In that first frame in front of the elevator, does anyone else think it looks like they could be holding hands?
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Yes, it does look like they are maybe holding hands in that shot!
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Could Lee be anticipating the part of the conversation where he’ll tell her she needs to go home and is trying to emphasize that separation through his body language?
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2golden You’ve just gone and hit the nail on the head twice in the last hour 🙂
Yep this makes sense to me 🙂
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Oops, I just read these comments after I wrote mine. You already said it. 🙂
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Could it be something as simple as being afraid to go there now after the near miss kiss in UN and the Sour Grapes tag? If he steps toward her to get close enough to hold her rams as he’s talking to her, wouldn’t there maybe be a little heat that they just can’t afford right now while trying to find Billy?
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I’m not totally irritated with Lee’s comments about Amanda being lucky and guessing at answers. First, in some ways, Amanda has been somewhat lucky. She was lucky enough to be at the train station. Sometimes she has been lucky (or unlucky) in winding up in the midst of a case. And sometimes she talks her way into the solution of a case, sometimes without realizing it herself, TGTN and the blow dryers, SOS and what 24 meant.
Secondly, I think that Lee’s response just shows that even with all the progress that he has made regarding Amanda and her capabilities he still slips back into his old ways from time to time. He doesn’t stay there long and he is softer in his responses. He still has a tendency to slip back into protective mode and I still think the loss of his previous partner still affects how he deals with Amanda. The barriers continue to come down, but they were pretty well built.
We haven’t heard anything about his previous partner other than the first episode and the way Lee puts it, you get the impression that his partner sacrificed himself to save Lee. That has to color some of his reactions and response to Amanda. He has already shown that he will go to extreme measures to keep her safe and protected.
That said, you can see that he continues to vacillate back and forth. He says ‘we’ and he also refers to Amanda’s intuition. So he knows that she is capable and he accepts her as a partner, but he is still a work in progress himself. And I think Amanda knows herself and knows Lee well enough that he is not trying to demean her and what she does, so she skips over the lucky and guessing comments and focuses on the intuition comment to get her point across. Lee accepts it and moves on. In the past he would have belabored the issue and continued to argue. Now he appreciates Amanda on a whole new level.
I noticed the reuse of the Zorbel exit as well. When I first saw it I thought ‘wasn’t he just upstairs?’ I had to go back and check the earlier scene.
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This all sounds good to me Valerie!
I am not irritated by Lee’s comments or Lee here at all (and nor is Amanda) – I’m irritated by the writing and the use of this little lucky/guesses plot device.. I am not thinking Lee underestimates Amanda and what she can contribute anymore – if I were then I would be very irritated with Lee too!!!
Yes in the beginning it makes sense to play up the luck.. but now? it doesn’t sit well for me.. All good points Valerie and I agree with you – Amanda has been very lucky- but there have also been times where she has used her brain.. and she is at this point using it more and more and luck less and less..
I know this is something the writers build on so it just plain bugs me.. always has..
I think they should have stuck with the ‘instinct’ slant – that I was much happier with… in Weasel Harry seemed to notice that Amanda has that special something that will make a great spy – and he called it instinct. I liked that as it didn’t undermine Amanda’s mind
Calling it luck or guesses? to me gives it a whole different slant and can undermine all that Amanda has achieved up to this point- Amanda has fought hard to get to this point, so for the writers to call it luck or guesses presses my cranky button! probably because I find Amanda’s professional growth very powerful.. -iwsod promises no more rants..
haa haaaa.. the same thing happened with me Valerie – Zorbel’s leaving? where did we just see him?? and ohh look he’s still there!! 😉 I wondered if he may have a good twin (since he would be the evil one )
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I wouldn’t be too hard on the writers here — in the immediate context, they are already disproving what Lee has just asserted. Maybe as we go on, we can tell if this line is intended (by contrast) to call our attention to the fact that Amanda’s skills go way beyond luck.
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I hope so happycamper!!! I’ll try 🙂
In spite of my loathing of this luck subplot I like this scene – now all the more for having heard everyone’s insights on it!! 🙂
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That Zorbel exit made me wonder if the Cyclops gang was into cloning as well a bank heists. 😉
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I like this scene – it shows that Amanda knows Lee so well now she knows exactly how to get him to go along with her – and have him be happy about it to boot!
Lee has is now considerably more relaxed and appreciative of Amanda than the Lee of S1 and even S2. I see him recognising the way that Amanda is manipulating him, and really admiring her initiative and tenacity. (“Manipulating” in a good way, I mean. Maybe “cajoling” is a better word to use.)
It’s in this sort of interaction between them that I think brings into sharper focus for Lee that he feels a whole lot more for her than friendship.
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I think Amanda’s response is brilliant. She shows that she is ready to do what is needed and she can handle Lee. She understands Lee and all the different things that he may be responding to that would cause him to say that and yet she is not offended and can still be the adult who knows the consequences of her choices, yet they are her choices and she has made them. Lee certainly is respecting that and falling in love with it as well.
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I like the filmed version, but here’s what’s in the script. Maybe the first part of this conversation (which is interesting) was filmed but edited out in the final cut?
AMANDA(worried) I hate the thought of Mr .Melrose out there somewhere, alone with those people.
LEE He’s a pro, Amanda.
AMANDA It doesn’t make it any easier though. (beat)How do you keep doing it, Lee? Living like that I mean?
LEE(shrugging)You just get used to it.
AMANDA I don’t think so.
LEE Amanda, I know what I’m talking about.
AMANDA And I know what I can see. In your eyes…(beat) I don’t think you can hide how you feel. About Billy, about this whole business…it’s okay with me. I feel it, too.
Lee stares at Amanda, feels the warmth of her concern.
LEE I know. Thanks…
AMANDA If what Mr Aquinas says about Cyclops is true, shouldn’t we get some help?
LEE We’re on our own. Dr .Smyth made that real clear.
(catching himself) I’m on my own. You’re on your way home
AMANDA(reacting) Why?
LEE Let’s not go through this again, Amanda. You know why.
AMANDA You still can’t do this alone, Lee. And Mr Melrose is still a friend of mine. Besides, I’m pretty good at this stuff.
LEE You’re lucky. You guess at answers. You use your intuition. It’s going to take a lot more than a sixth sense to deal with Cyclops.
AMANDA Right. And I’ve got a plan. I’ll tell you on the way to the employment agency.
They reach the Corvette. Amanda climbs in.
LEE What employment agency? Amanda, I told you I’m doing this by myself. Why don’t you ever listen?
AMANDA I told you I had a plan. Why don’t you listen?
Lee stares at Amanda, searching for a decent answer. Can’t find one. Mumbles something under this breath, then climbs into the car, fires it up.
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I like that first part, thanks for sharing it. It works with where the characters are. I like that Amanda is being honest and talking about personal relationships and how it affects them, but then she is ready to keep going on with the investigation. It is nice to see them balancing each other and drawing each other towards center. Does that make any sense?
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I wish they’d left the first part in. So endearing.
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:O Oh no, I can’t help it… I see another naughty meme in the pic above Amanda : “You still need me.” 😈
There’s no hope for me is there, Iwsod? Sigh I shall once again retire to the gutter with my dark chocolate and Pinot Noir.
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rofl! I went and looked and saw the pic above where she says you need me.. I thought ah okay.. yeah Amanda’s looking down.. I guess that’s where Kiwismh was headed..(with the meme)
then I came back here and realised it’s the one above where she says ‘you still need me’ I scrolled down and.. Hello!!! then it was immediately obvious where your head was at! whahaahahaa..
Umm he was trying to get Amanda to listen to him 😉 tee hee..
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Wah hah hah hah hah! Lee even has a cheeky smile on his face…
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I do not like Lee’s “You guess at answers, you use your intuition” comment – maybe he’s just trying to protect her but this smacks of early season two Lee (and he was funnier and had better hair so I was prepared to put up with him!) Love Amanda’s management of him. Bringing up two boys has given her all the skills she needs to get him to do what she wants….:)
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Oh phew.. it’s not just me!!
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