Lee and Amanda walk out into the hallway closing the door on Leslie in Lee’s apartment.. Amanda still has her smile plastered on.. LOL! poor Amanda!
The shock of it all is still hanging in the air.. Lee didn’t expect Amanda and Leslie to meet, and well… Amanda certainly didn’t expect Leslie Remember that easy, friendly camaraderie as they arrived just a few moments ago?? Everything is suddenly different. Veeerrry different!
So… what are the first words out of Lee’s mouth once Lee and Amanda are alone?
Lee: I briefed Billy. [Really Lee? Bluffing again are you Lee? It does come naturally.. What about Leslie and Amanda meeting??!!! Because right now that’s all I care about! ]
Amanda nods..and smirks.. though IMHO it emanates from her here that she is not happy- too mild a word? How about- she’s furious???? (what do you think?)
Lee continues with his bluffing : We’ve got a team standing by in case O’Keefe calls.
Amanda doesn’t respond to that, instead she says: She’s very nice.
[Meh! Amanda is generous! I’m not convinced on that one myself…but whatever!]
Lee is a little taken aback by this statement: Ohhh ahh… I’m glad you like her. [lol Lee Amanda didn’t say she liked her 😉 only that she was ‘nice’ 😉 ]
[Is he? really glad?? I think he’d rather they had never met- thoughts anyone?]
Amanda quickly: Not your type.
Lee: what do you mean not my type?
Amanda: she’s normal…
[Okay, I can see the attempt was made to portray Leslie as normal..she looked normal! but lol I found her weird! ]
..She’s a normal person. She would never understand you…
…She would never understand what you do.
[and since when has Lee gone for ‘normal’!! Right Amanda? 🙂 ]
Amanda takes a huge breath here.. yes.. breath Amanda!
Amanda is normal.
Amanda says Lee’s type is not ‘normal’
– therefore Amanda is not Lee’s type!!
Hmm.. this is all getting rather confusing for Amanda no?!
Lee’s reply is a little snappy : Amanda…
…She has a top security clearance from the UN as a diplomatic translator…
(Lee starts checking off on his fingers here her credentials..Okay, I am now officially starting to get mad at Lee for the first time this episode!)
…She’s been to Moscow for the start talks.
To me, Lee gives off the vibe here of not being happy with Amanda questioning him- because he knows what he is doing! Indignant maybe? He’s thought this all through! What does she know! lol.. Lee thinks he has it all sorted out, but I think he is kidding himself.
[Amanda looks at Lee incredulous at hearing this]
…she can guess what I do.
Ohhhh boy.. I think Amanda freaks out a little as what Lee says here is plausible and requires her to re-adjust all the things she knew about Lee and Relationships!!! eek!
I cannot wait to hear what you all make of this!
Can Leslie really guess? ‘guess’ implies he hasn’t actually told her! So this real relationship he is trying out with Leslie so far still has it’s limits.. I tend to think anyone who knew what Lee did would not have ‘surprised’ him at his apartment, and if she knows- why did he hide his gun from her when he arrived? Meh.. I’m not convinced..
I think Lee is trying to convince himself though. I see this as Lee talking up this relationship with Leslie because he wants it to work.
Lee continues: … that’s why it works out so….. perfect!
Whoa!!!! Now that is a line that tells us a lot about where Lee is at now!
This is what Lee now sees as ‘perfect’?? A woman who can actually guess what he does and has a security clearance?
I think this is a huge shift in Lee and his attitudes towards relationships that – when Amanda has calmed down- will tell her a lot!
Lee now no longer defines Randi types who have not a clue what he does for a living as ‘perfect’ – Lee now seems to value being able to share his life with someone-without having to keep secrets.. he sees the advantage in less compartmentalisation…but.. at the same time, IMHO he hasn’t stopped this yet (I’m not buying that he has been completely open with Leslie about what he does!). And let’s not forget- he’s now thinking ‘normal’ is perfect!
So while I cringe at Lee saying this about Leslie.. I do also see that this is progress..
That question he began to ponder in SOS: Could I want to be a husband??? Maybe I do??!! Could I really share my life with someone?? Well… it seems he has progressed in answering this, and has moved on to trying out this type of relationship with someone – Someone who is similar to Amanda in that she wants a real relationship.. but it is not exactly the same as with Amanda.. as was discussed earlier in light of the dress conversation, Lee’s feelings for Amanda are too scary for him to deal with at this point.
I am sure you will all have a lot to say about this!
This is a long distance relationship soo that seems to me to be not too demanding..
Leslie doesn’t have a ready made family and Lee thinks he can test this relationship stuff out, long distance, without having to risk his relationship with Amanda – which he knows would be at risk if he tried this with her. It’s not a bad plan.. lol! 😉 He values Amanda so much- he doesn’t want to risk loosing it. He’s not ready to risk that.. but he’s ready to try with someone else.. Ohhh Lee!!!! I guess he’s got some growing to do!! I hate to see Amanda’s hurt here.. but.. I can see Lee needed to go through all this to learn a lesson or two.
Maybe Amanda needed to go through this too – to begin to acknowledge she has not completely dealt with romantic feelings for Lee like she thought she had.. [and like the casablanca dream in DOA hinted at- it was buried deep in her unconscious!!]
Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on what is happening with Amanda here – jealous? yes! but.. I think that is only a part of what is feeding this anger of hers here..I’ve never seen Amanda as tending towards jealousy very much.. a little.. but I think jealousy is much more Lee’s tendency.
I’d better keep going with this scene! Sorry for my rambles!
So… Lee has just explained what’s now ‘perfect’ – shocking isn’t it Amanda!!!!
Amanda doesn’t really respond. She just nods and says: Ohhh..
and takes a breath. What to say huh?!
Lee seems to be oblivious to Amanda’s anger here.. confused and trying to move things back to business – you trying to keep Amanda your partner separate from your private life again now Lee?
Lee continues: Anyway, where was I?..
…everything is all set up in case O’Keefe calls…
…You’re going straight home right?!!!
[Amanda is over the limit!!!!!]
Oh boy!!! this really is the last straw for Amanda.. first she is replaced by Leslie.. and now she is suddenly no longer involved in the case?? she was involved when they arrived, and now Lee is staying with Leslie she isn’t?
(Amanda heads for the elevator mocking Lee) ..ha haaa haaa grrrrr go straight home Amanda! Story of my life. School, dinners, grocery store, then straight home Amanda!..
Lee is utterly baffled at her angry reaction here
Lee: what the-
Amanda: …Never been to the UN,…
…never been on the road to Moscow…
…The only Hague I know is that guy who use to be secretary of state! Ha!
Lee: Amanda, you have been a big help, believe me I appreciate it.
[Meh.. the words don’t match the actions Lee… Give her a pat on the head there Lee.. that will make her point so nicely! you condescending dill! I think Lee said something similar to James last week (In Welcome to America Mr Brand) when he was trying to placate him. ]
On hearing this, Amanda lowers her head and lets out a big breath, you can even see her slump physically.
She can see she is not being understood by Lee here. And he isn’t going to get it. I think this is the moment where she decides to go work on the case without him anyway. she starts smiling and nodding like crazy, too bad pal!
…Now all we have to do is wait for O’Keefe to take the bait…
[Get it???!!! Take the bait??!!! whahahahaa]
…If he calls for a rendezvous, hey, I can get Francine to you know, double as you.
It’s official! Amanda is well over her limit!!!!
She smiles and nods and throws up her hand saying light-heartedly: riiiigghhht!!!
oh boy..did Lee just say what I think he just said??!!! Of all the times to mention Francine replacing Amanda!!!! Big mistake Lee!! Amanda is fed up with women replacing her!!!! She wants to be free to live her life- whether you want a relationship with Amanda or not! Lee knows previously Amanda has had issues with Francine replacing her- why say it now like it is doing Amanda a favour that she isn’t involved? Honestly, Lee is completely clueless here!!!!! Criminally so!
The elevator door opens.
Amanda: .. we could at least watch him…
…but ohh nooo no no…
… you have better things to do.
Ouch!!! now that is some nark there with that last line. She’s right though, he’d be on the case if Leslie hadn’t ‘surprised’ him. Bad Lee.. I guess Lee can go do what he likes, but Amanda doesn’t have to like it. She’s as angry here as I’ve ever seen her.
Amanda’s quip about Lee having better things to do makes Lee mad!
Lee: Amanda King. I am not going to fight with you about this.
(Amanda smiles at Lee here.. nothing he could say to her now would stop her from doing what she wants)
.. Now watching O’Keefe is pointless…
…You go home!..
(saying that? Is going to make her even more determined!)
Ohhh I so can’t wait to hear everyone’s take on this!!! I see this as a huge contrast to the previous scene in that same hallway
– coming out of that same elevator Lee points at Amanda to say you were good! here: harmony!
and here on the way out?? Lee points at Amanda to tell her to go home like she’s a child! here: disharmony!!
Whoa!!! suddenly with Leslie on the scene Lee is shutting Amanda out of this case, telling her to go home, and IMHO Lee is slacking off on the case! Watching O’Keefe is pointless? Rubbish!!
Amanda: Ohh?? Mmmmmm..
(Amanda’s big smile as the elevator doors close is priceless!!)
…Not this time Buster!
Whoa!!!!! is that their biggest fight yet?? What do you think??? They both got very worked up. I tend to think this isn’t just about work – it’s about their feelings for each other, but the work thing is definitely a part of it all. I am sure you guys will be able to put it into words better than I!
Amanda is so angry – angry about Lee and Leslie.. Why is Amanda so angry?
I’ll think on that for a while.. but the idea of earlier comments that Amanda felt a ‘claim’ on Lee because of their history rings true..(not necessarily a romantic claim) Who said that?? and what post?? remind me?? so sorry! I don’t have time to hunt it down!
BJo listed earlier a number of reasons why Amanda could be feeling angry- Amanda jealous of Leslie? yes, a little.. but I really think that is only a part of it. She really wasn’t thinking Lee was a possibility..so jealousy was to me not the main emotion going on.. this is all such a shock!
I also think that Lee denied to Amanda that he had a new girlfriend (when he exclaimed: who said I have a new girlfriend?!! like Amanda was nuts to suggest it) and here she finds out – she was right he did – and by denying it, Lee had lied to her. I mean he could have said- no comment..but IMHO he lied to Amanda.. I can see that making Amanda very angry- to find out in this way?? with Leslie being all nice and super friendly and way too familiar?! and acting like she is in a long term committed relationship with Lee? meh!
Amanda is angry with Lee and Leslie – I think Amanda displaces some of her anger with Lee onto her anger about the job – this is why she is so extreme in her anger here.
I think her anger is leading her to behave recklessly.. I am not sure she would have gone off if Lee hadn’t made her so mad.
Lee is angry with Amanda too – he doesn’t really get where her anger is coming from, he certainly doesn’t want to listen to Amanda tell him that Leslie is not his type and he’s doing this relationship thing all wrong lol.. he seems to me to be avoiding thinking about Leslie and Amanda.. This is not working out the way Lee hoped.. he thought he could have the best of both worlds – keep wonderful Amanda close as a friend and partner.. and pursue a normal (long distance) relationship with Leslie – but… Amanda is so angry she is making trouble for him! [in more ways than one- but I’ll come back to this next post]
Amanda it seems is being replaced.. what with the dress, the soviet embassy.. and Lee choosing to be with Leslie than watch O’Keefe.. and it seems very stark when compared to Lee and Amanda’s arrival in the hallway- so together!! and now?? they’ve never been further apart!!
You know, not watching O’Keefe reminds me of Mr Brand last week- no one but Amanda and James, against orders, were watching Clayton-Dobbs as he carried out his plans – and had James and Amanda not followed him the agency would have had nothing. Interesting when this episode is now immediately after Mr Brand- how this similar situation has arisen again.
[The script IMHO has a different tone here.. much more Amanda on the front foot with Leslie, and Leslie not being so weirdly assertive with Amanda..(I think the weird assertiveness was a blunder, and the writers did intend to write her as a nice normal lady- but IMHO they got it really wrong. A bit like how I think Byron Jordan was suppose to be a good guy, but to me he came off as a sexual harrassing boss! )]
I’ll look forward to hearing you guys expand more on what’s happening with Lee and Amanda here – I’m sure I haven’t put it very clearly.. but oh well.. this is the best I can do with the time I have..
I was really struck by the level of Amanda’s anger here – and Lee’s cluelessness..
I’ll finish up here for now.. we pick up with Lee and Leslie’s dinner in the next post.. you guessed it- this post is huge and I need to finish up for now.. – as always- please try not to jump ahead to the next scene- lots to discuss here!! Can’t wait to hear your take on this scene!!! byeee for now everyone!!