Back where we left off.. Remember.. Amanda said she and Joe didn’t agree on everything.. Lee asked if she’d care to elaborate on that.. and Amanda said no.
Lee: for the first time since we met, you’re my case…
[No, this not ‘the first time’ Ummmm what about ‘the first time’ lol.. he even says the episode title. Hmm maybe he means since the first time we met. what does the script say? anyone? I’ll go with that.. mind you.. Amanda has ended up being the case a number of times no? They just didn’t require knowing about her first marriage. ]
…Now I need to know the truth…
– even if it’s tough.
[‘The truth’.. hmm I am guessing when a marriage breaks up – there are always two versions of the truth. I think for the sake of the case, Lee is asking these questions.. and he is very gentle with her here.. I don’t think this comes from his natural curiosity about Amanda and Joe. He must be curious about it sure.. but this is not why he is asking -just my humble opinion though 🙂 ]
Amanda is thoughtful for a moment, then she closes Joe’s ES12..
Lee! that book is closed!!
Amanda: Uh, here’s your list…
Amanda changes the subject! such a typical non confrontational way of telling Lee she wants to move on!
Lee looks a little pained when he realises she’s done this..
…Okay, Joe and I were married in ’72…
(Lee listens.. realising where Amanda is headed..
He gives Amanda one of those – Oh Amanda! looks!! )
[Maybe some would interpret this as Lee not being happy that Amanda isn’t just spilling all he wants to know.. but I see this as Lee being worried for Amanda, Joe and the case – I don’t see Lee being upset because Amanda won’t trust him with this information here.. but maybe it’s just me?!]
…Joe started law school in 1973 and I had Philip in 1973,…
…and then Joe graduated in ’75 and Jamie came right—
[Ahhh you fans who are great with dates, chronology, ages etc. – does this make you gleeful? or want to pull your hair out?! Do tell! I’ve only ever paid attention to Lee and Amanda’s chronology together.. the rest makes me dizzy! Oh umm how does Law school work in the US? Is that 2 years? ]
See Lee’s reaction before he speaks up?
What do you think is going through Lee’s mind here?
Lee: I can read, Amanda.
I think he starts off gruff, but ends with an affectionate expression – softening his delivery..
what do you think?
By saying this.. IMHO – I think Lee is telling her – I know what you are doing. And this isn’t helping.. Lee is frustrated a little at Amanda’s reticence because he wants to help her – but she is not letting him at this point – or should I say, she is putting limits on how he can help her. And he’s worried about her.
Amanda wants to hold back – but this is a very serious situation.. so she’ll need to wrestle with this I guess.
(Lee reacts to her expression with a gentle look of his own before he continues)
…Tell me what isn’t in the file, okay? (We see Amanda react)
Then Lee decides to straight to the heart of the matter.
…What went wrong?
[Whoa.. Lee.. he had been gentle up to this point.. but ‘what went wrong’? lol that question just goes pow!!! right to the hard stuff!! But the way he asks is still gentle.. and Lee asks not looking at Amanda..]
Anyone else confused at what is in those ES12’s?! If Joe’s written about Amanda being stubborn – it sounds to me like included in the ES12 was an explanation of why you got divorced.. sooo wouldn’t Amanda have written something about this? I could see this is a question you would need to complete with high level security- so why wouldn’t she have answered it already?!
I find it curious Lee doesn’t refer to what she’s written (or should have- because these ES12s aren’t making sense to me). He just asks her..but she isn’t prepared for this kind of questioning.. even if he is not being hard on her..
Amanda: With the marriage?
[Amanda seems shocked here, completely unprepared for being asked this question. I wonder if this is a question she has not thought about in years?! much less talk to Lee about it.]
…Uh mm. (i.e no!)
– Amanda shakes her head..
Lee: Amanda. (Lee pleads with her)
Amanda: No, really, I mean why?
Lee: I don’t know, call it criminal psychology or something like that…
…Look, I am trying to— to put the pieces together here. Joe is wanted for murder…
(This is very serious Amanda!!) Oh and LOL.. Amanda knows what it’s like to be wanted for murder
…Now, everything you’ve told me about the guy…
…leads me to believe he’s just a— a happy-go-lucky, mild mannered lawyer.
[Maybe it’s just me- but I don’t mind that Lee is asking about this to investigate this case.. It makes sense to me.. and how Lee explains it here rings true to me– I think he is sincere and without a hidden agenda.
Mr nice guy got divorced.. this could tell Lee a lot about Joe. Yes about Amanda also- but I don’t see Lee here as asking for selfish reasons – from his expressions, to me, he is pleading with her to trust him with this information, so he can help- what do you all think? On previous viewings I have suspected Lee was curious but watching this scene now, and slowing it down – I’m just not seeing it.. and lol.. I was looking for it! ]
Amanda: He’s a great guy, he really is,…
…and I feel a little uncomfortable in this situation.
Lee reacts to this..
[BB manages to convey amazing emotions here imho!]
Then.. there’s a knock at the door –cutting off how Lee was going to respond. Gah!!! I really wanted to hear how Lee responded to Amanda!!
From his expression – I’m guessing he was about to reassure her. How I can’t say.. booo.. What do you think?
But isn’t it fabulous to see that – even while these two are at odds here in this scene – they are still very close and treat each other gently.. there is a real affection there – and ‘not agreeing about everything’ doesn’t seem to get in the way of this between these two 🙂
Old Lee would have gotten angry with Amanda here.. because he’s scared and frustrated.. and she’s not doing what he wants -but this Lee is much more mature – and while he isn’t being a push over.. he takes into consideration how difficult this must be for Amanda.. and he has patience with her.. What a good man
Anyone else reminded of the last time Lee ‘interrogated’ Amanda? I’m thinking Spiderweb! [Here too – Amanda was in very serious trouble.. and Lee was trying to help..
Lee (very business like-tee hee!) : Amanda sit down please. Alright! Now.. Where were you between November of ’82 and mid-January of ’83?
Amanda: Are you Perry Mason?… Am I supposed to crack under the pressure or something?
[I’m with Amanda.. Lee’s tough guy persona here is completely lost and adorable.. very worth teasing! ]
Lee: Amanda- please?!……Where were you?!
Too cute! follow the hyperlink if you want to go back to that post and the thoughts we shared on it.. but I think it’s an interesting contrast with where we are at now.
In Spiderweb, Lee was attempting to assert himself – standing over Amanda and trying as best he could to be business like tough guy Lee.. And Amanda was completely not buying it.. but happy to answer his questions..
Here? Lee and Amanda are on the same level – they are now much more equals – even when Amanda is the case. And this time.. Amanda doesn’t just go along and answer his questions.. I found this interesting!
Lee is so much more comfortable and able to relate with Amanda now naturally.. just being himself
Sooooo what’s going on with Amanda?? Hmm?? Do tell!! I think I need to see more of what’s going on with Amanda to fully understand why Amanda reacted to Lee’s questioning the way she did.. so I might rethink some of my ideas as we go.. (quite possible!)
I think the writers want us to be questioning whether Lee and Amanda’s burgeoning relationship is going to be damaged at all by the content of this ‘high level investigation’!!
Maybe Amanda just isn’t ready to answer these types of questions.. I wonder if at this point she is even able to articulate why her marriage ended – this has all come up so suddenly!
Why do you think Amanda isn’t spilling here?!
Amanda seems to be a very open person -I suspect this is partly because she often ‘overshares’ but when I stop and think about it, it is usually about pretty inane stuff– also, she is open with her emotions and caring for others.. but when it comes to her own history, and her own painful memories, she is a very private person.
It would not be easy to share this part of herself with Lee at this point, because while they are close – there’s no commitment between them.. They don’t have a relationship yet where he can ask these questions.. But because of the case he needs to ask – so it kind of forces them into territory neither is prepared for. So far Amanda isn’t volunteering much!
Lastly, I think Amanda doesn’t want to say things to Lee that are critical of Joe. She is very loyal – and would not like to talk ‘badly’ about her ex, or the father of her children. Does Joe deserve this? Meh.. I’m thinking he probably doesn’t deserve it!! Grrrr.. what nice guy leaves his wife and two small kids like that?! Hmm.. I’m not convinced by this picture that’s being painted.. (looking forward to maybe getting some answers here?!) but lucky Joe.. he has Amanda’s support anyway..
Well I’m really looking forward to exploring this more with you all – and of course as we see how things progress in this episode. So glad we finally got to see Lee and Amanda together again – though interestingly- it was not for long, and it was cut short abruptly..