We made it!! continuing on immediately after the previous post.. we have Lee and Amanda in..*drum roll* the touching scene!!! whoo hooo!
Amanda: I think it was Lady Bromfield.
Lee: Lady Bromfield? No, she’s not strong enough to put the pike through the hedge. [ good point Lee.. yes,that pun is intended ]
Amanda: well no I don’t think she actually did it. But I think she’s behind it. I just don’t trust her. [Amanda doesn’t trust a woman who doesn’t love her husband.. Hmm this came in handy in Lost and Found! ]
Lee: I don’t know what makes me ask this, but why don’t you trust her?
[ I love this line of Lee’s!!! considering the context and the little conflict they were having earlier in this scene about ‘window dressing’ – this line is perfect!!- SMK writers have done a beautiful job here.. they always do great when it comes to Lee and Amanda! –I think it says a lot for where Lee is at in this episode, in how he sees Amanda and her role in his work.. He doesn’t know why he is asking – BUT he is asking!!!!!!! and.. he is wondering why he is asking!!!! Genius!]
Amanda: It’s a feeling. [ LOL! It is more than that! ] Lee: Ohhh that solid huh..
Amanda: Mmmhmm. I don’t think she loves her husband.
Lee: Amanda she’s been married to him for 12 years. Stood by him through this whole scandal. [Lee lecturing Amanda about marriage? that’s too funny.. I think Amanda well and truly knows that the magic can wear off in a marriage sometimes and why is Lee saying Lady B stood by Lord B in ‘this whole scandal’ like that is a big thing? when with Amanda he has downplayed the scandal’s significance?! What a gorgeous smile he gives here though ]
Amanda: that’s very nice… ( I love how she says that line!).. but I don’t think she loves him.
[ A revisiting of this concept from Lost and Found.. Amanda said exactly the same thing about Eva! That there was no magic in her eyes when she looked at Angelo.. and Amanda was right!! ]
Lee: Amanda, No.
Amanda: Lee. [watch and learn Lee!] There’s just something about the way that she looks at him. There’s nothing in her face when she looks at him…
She just doesn’t look like she loves him.
Lee isn’t convinced..but he’s not arguing!
Amanda continues: There’s nothing in her eyes.
Lee gives Amanda a quick sideways glance.
Amanda is on a roll her speed of talking moves up a notch here!
Amanda continues: And they never touch each other, have you ever seen them hold hands?…
…Or have you ever seen him put his arm around her?
[ she motions with her arm someone putting their arm around someone.. I think she is excited.. Lee isn’t cutting off her thoughts here, he is just quietly listening..]
I had never noticed this before! At this moment.. Lee opens his mouth as if to say something.. he shrugs.. and motions with his hands like ‘I don’t know’ but doesn’t end up saying anything and he lets Amanda continue..Lee is pretty perplexed about this love stuff haaaa..
Amanda continues: Or she.. er and [I think KJ flubs her line here but.. it works great! She recovers and keeps going! I would love to read the script and see if some of this dialogue is ad libbed.. but no script! ]
You know, people who care about each other they…
At this, she reaches out to grab both his hands with both of her hands and looks down at their hands
Lee remains silent, and looks down at their joined hands
… they wanna be close to each other… [Amanda stills, realising what she is doing and begins draw back]
and they.. uhhhh.. [Amanda looks up..]
Here the music kicks in, and the scene cuts to a shot on Lee.. He is looking down at their hands..
then he glances up at Amanda with a ‘Whaaaa??!!! arghhh!!!’ look of fear on his face at what could be going on here!
and then back down to their hands.
If Amanda saw that look on his face, it would be clear to her he is terrified she might have feelings for him!! All the more motivation for Amanda to squash any thought of falling in love with this man waaaay down!
Amanda looks back up at him. [What have I done???!!!]
Amanda has stilled and realised what she is doing. [Ohhh nooooo!!!! don’t tell me he’s thinking I meant something by that???!!! Ohhh Nooo!!!! ]
She looks seriously at Lee, then gives a quiet little smile and shrug.
I don’t see Amanda panicking here.. but she can see this is electric! and awkward!! She lets go, looks away, then quickly glances back to Lee and finishes stating emphatically: She doesn’t touch him.
[Hooray for Amanda! she remembered her train of thought – she is a woman with a strong consitution!! and I think this shows she is not completely thrown into a tizz by what just happened..]
She looks out over the Thames again, and Lee looks at Amanda..
LOL.. and licks his lips
He smiles to himself and looks around- maybe laughing at how ‘Ridiculous’ this is? haaaawhahahaaaa!!
I will expand on what I think is going on below.. but in this moment, IMO, he is laughing to give the impression he isn’t affected, and maybe he also laughs that he thought Amanda meant something by all this for a second!.. but he realises she didn’t because of how she lets go and looks away.. and.. she didn’t want it to look that way! She’s not looking to start anything here!!
Neither of them know what to say.. yep.. nothing either of you say can fix this one tee hee!
Amanda: ahh ahh ahh no we-
Lee: No, you know you you you.. uh. [ Lee looks down]
…errr you have some fascinating theories. [I’d like to hear Lee’s theories that are tossing around his head in this moment.. wouldn’t you? )
Amanda: well, they’re.. [ Amanda gives a funny look here.. LOL maybe she’s thinking her ideas are not always 100% accurate..because we were touching and I don’t love you! ]
Amanda doesn’t hide caring about Lee.. and she was talking about caring for someone when she reached out to him.. So in a way, Amanda doesn’t have as much to hide as Lee does! ]
Amanda takes a gulp, smiles and says as she looks out over the Thames: Well, we can stay here all day or we can go back.
Lee is all smiles: haaa yeah!
[ He is trying to sound light hearted here.. LOL why am I reminded of how he laughed after their near kiss in the car in Filming Raul?! when in reality- he was terrified??!! Another reminder of that scene in this episode!! ]
Lee laughs and looks to the side.. and we see here – Amanda licks her lips!!! Wahahahahhaaa!! [See below for how I interpret all this!! Looking forward to hearing what YOU think!!! 🙂 ]
Lee looks up and continues: haaaa we better go – come on..
He puts his arm out to encourage Amanda to move on.. and then – LOL! He puts his arm around her – toooooo funny!!!! It is so natural he doesn’t realise he is doing it!!! Even after the conversation they just had!!
We see them walk off together.. only Amanda shrugs out of Lee’s arm.. whwhahahaahaaaaaa that is toooo funny!!! You’re touching me don’t touch me!! We don’t love each other!!!!
[and doesn’t this send a message to Lee: she doesn’t want you like that! ] Lee realises and puts his hand behind his back.. tee heee..
What a fabulous scene this is.. ok I have been a bit grumpy about this episode.. but this scene saves it for me.. (well this scene and the tuxedo!! ) Soooo come on everyone!! how do you see this scene unfolding?? Do tell!!
I will now add to my comments I’ve already made interspersed with the dialogue, but it is by no means the only take or the right take.. it’s just my take! How you view this scene is going to vary greatly, depending on if you view this episode after Brunettes are In or before.. or if you think by this episode that Amanda is in love with Lee or that Lee is in love with Amanda, or even how you would define ‘love’ or being ‘in love’ – our experiences of this scene are probably vast!
I think this scene is full of delicious irony.. here are two people discussing how to recognise whether someone is in love or not – when they themselves are beginning to fall in love with each other – and neither of them can see it! 😆 The hands.. the physical awareness.. the lip licking.. the awkwardness! it’s all there.. for a moment they wonder.. but then they both immediately deny it, refusing to see what could be going on between them! Lots of fun to watch!!
For me, I don’t see Amanda as loving Lee yet [but she is definitely on the path towards it! I would love to hear your take on all this!!! Come on Everyone! ] Amanda is not afraid to demonstrate to Lee that she cares for him remember her fearce protectiveness in The first time? it has been there from the start this loyalty she has for him(and not just when he is in danger! Remember she wanted to help him know he had options in Savior?? ).. He is her friend and she would be upset if something happened to him!
It could be seen that Amanda reaching out to grab Lee’s hands is her unconscious love for him.. revealing itself. That is very romantic.. but.. I don’t see it that way! I think Amanda was caught up in what she was saying to him, demonstrated caring- Amanda admits to the caring! So it doesn’t necessarily reveal she is in love with him.
Amanda stops short because she sees how Lee is reacting to what she is doing.. and she responds to that.. I don’t think she is responding to her reaching out and grabbing his hands- but I am guessing opinions will vary here. I think Amanda has given up any fantasies she had about Lee.. and is at the point where she only occasionally has to remind herself of this and she seems determined not to lose control over her heart where this man is concerned.. [Let’s face it, it took a determined woman to hold back as long as Amanda does!! ] I don’t think she is thinking there is the remotest chance of anything happening with Lee in the romance department, though she enjoys the work she does with him, and Lee as a friend.
I think this flows on from one of the themes of this episode – that things sometimes are misunderstood to be something other than what they are.. Amanda and Lord B are not having an affair, Lee didn’t kill Compson, and Amanda didn’t just make a pass at Lee or declare her feelings. I think Amanda is worried her response to Lee here will be interpreted as something which it isn’t – Love..
When Lee reacts, thinking she might mean something here – I think she is taken by surprise that Lee would think that of her ( I’d say he is taken by surprise with that too! ‘Ridiculous’! ) and for a just a second it makes her wonder – is there something here after all?? As she licks her lips towards the end of the scene.. By the end of the scene though, Amanda has put this idea out of her mind.. demonstrated by her suggestion to get going back to Bromfield Hall, and her shrugging off of his arm around her!
Underneath it all – there is a physical awareness between the two of them which – just like the issue of Amanda being Lee’s window dressing (when she is really his partner!) – they are nowhere near ready to deal with this..
Maybe this adds to Lee’s flash of terror! he notices his response to Amanda.. Which only adds to the awkwardness here.. My take on Lee is – he avoids admitting he cares about Amanda.. or that he is attracted to her – to both himself and to anyone else! He also is not comfortable (comfortable in the sense of being use to it) with Amanda’s demonstrating she cares for him – though he secretly enjoys it IMHO sometimes.
While Amanda is talking about touching, caring and love.. Lee freaks out!!! What’s happening here?? She doesn’t! she isn’t telling me what I think she is telling me??!!! Is she?! I swear, BB does a fantastic job of showing terror on Lee’s face – for just a second.. he covers it very quickly.. Lee isn’t comfortable dealing with feelings, emotions.. and this is all very confusing to him.. and here he was focusing on getting his job done – being the target of an assassin? he can cope with that.. bring it on!!!! but.. confronting any growing feelings he may have for Amanda? or which she could have for him? Whoa!! Get me out of here!!!
Maybe part of Lee’s reaction is tied to what he said earlier to Amanda ‘All you have to do is look to know it’s ridiculous’ – and yet.. here is Amanda holding his hands, causing him to feel an attraction to her ! No no no!! well that really is ridiculous. Amanda?!! I think it is partly tied into that idea I’ve been tossing around in my head – about how Lee is fighting seeing Amanda as a desirable woman, and as a woman with desires!
Sooooo – what’s your take on what’s going on?? I hope I’ve clearly conveyed my thoughts.. Where Amanda is at, where Amanda thinks Lee is at.. Where Lee is at, and where Lee thinks Amanda is at.. and Where Lee is really at ROFL!! [At least this is my thinking at the moment.. you never know ]
Ah nearly forgot! I found a boo boo in this scene.. I’ve only seen it a hundred times.. but given the content it is understandable this didn’t get noticed till now! When Lee says ‘ well you have some fascinating theories’ and it cuts back to Amanda, Amanda has her elbow up on the ledge there.. and you can see her microphone inside her jacket with the black cord and everything! tee heee.
It’s actually pretty obvious because it’s black and she’s wearing all white!!! I was so absorbed in Lee and Amanda – I didn’t notice!
This scene makes this episode.. a stand out moment!!! Soo what do you all think? Like to share your thoughts?
I’ll repeat here what I wrote in the last post: Don’t forget there is a post dedicated solely to the discussion of Lee and Amanda’s relationship throughout the whole series here. If you would like to discuss this more broadly than just an episode or scene.. this would be a great place to discuss..
When did Amanda fall in Love with Lee? When did Lee fall in love with Amanda? Is there one moment? or many progressive moments? Any one moment that stands out for you as a ‘So that’s where they are at!’ moment?? and.. how do you define when someone is ‘in love’ ? I would love to hear your thoughts on this – anyone who is reading – There is no right or wrong answer.. only a very interesting discussion to be had! 😆
Thanks for reading!! I’d love to hear from you!!!